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20091022-11 Paradise Lost, Book 9 (Group 2)

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Summary

 

For day two of "Paradise Lost", we discussed the numerous epic conventions that Milton has used thus far. These conventions included similes, the underworld/hell, speeches, magic, grand scale, epithets, repetition, and monsters and obstacles. While observing all of these types of epic conventions, we realized that many were linked primarily to Satan, especially the similes and magic examples. We learned that Satan was the link in magic examples because during the 1600's people were shunned if they practiced witchcraft or magic. Satan is the practitioner of magic within "Paradise Lost". An example of Satan practicing magic can be found in Book 9, on page 196, where he arrives in Eden within a mist, and then enters into and possesses the serpent.

We also discussed Milton’s use of similes in comparison to earlier texts from class. Although Milton used similes like Homer and Dante, he differed by using classical and Biblical events and persons. This usage of “greater” similes displays how Milton believed that in his Christian world, everything was either far better or worse than anything described in the Greek world. An example of this would be from Book 1, at the bottom of page 11, where Milton is comparing the devils to leaves on brooks in Italy, as well as to scattered hedge in the Red Sea with crashing waves from the Exodus. The last idea we discussed in regards to similes was how no similes were observed throughout Book 3, where God and Jesus Christ are speaking to one another. We learned that similes are usually added by the narrator to clarify an idea for the reader, and since one cannot really successfully compare God to anything, similes were not used.

 

Word Count - 283

 

Passages

 

 

Page 47 – Lines 756-761

Likest to thee in shape and countnance bright (Then shining Heav’nly fair) a goddess armed Out of thy head I sprung! Amazement seized All th’ host of Heav’n. Back they recoiled afraid At first and called me “Sin” and for a sign Portentous held me.

Sin is born of Satan’s forehead, which parallels the birth of Athena from Zeus’ head. It only makes sense that Athena is the goddess of wisdom since she is born from the head of the leader of the Greek gods. Similarly, Sin is birthed from Satan’s head, which his thoughts would have been pure evil.

 

 

Page 62 – Lines 236 – 241

Behold Me then, Me for him, life for life I offer. On Me let thine anger fall. Account Me Man. I for his sake will leave Thy bosom and this glory next to Thee Freely put off and for him lastly die Well pleased.

In this passage, Jesus, the son of God, shows extreme heroism. After mankind has sinned, God states that some great sacrifice of someone worthy would have to be made to pay back man’s debt to God. Jesus then offers his own life, and the opportunity to become a mortal so that He could die for mankind’s livelihood.

 

 

Page 11 – Lines 300 – 305

Of that inflamed sea he stood and called His legions, angel forms who lay entranced Thick as autumnal leaves that strew the brooks In Vallombrosa where th’ Etrurian shades High overarched embow’r, or scattered sedge Afloat when with fierce winds Orion armed Hath vexed the Red Sea coast

In this passage, Milton uses similes similar to those of Homer and Dante by which they both deal with nature. As in the summary of the class, the devils are compared to autumnal leaves and scattered sedge afloat on the Red Sea. This description displays the unfathomable amount of devils that were present in the story.

 

 

 

 

 

Terms

 

Nubia- afterlife/underworld (in Greek culture)

 

Comments (2)

kmdixon@... said

at 8:20 pm on Oct 26, 2009

do we not have any passages yet? I started with the essay and added the only term I wrote down, but it looks like everyone is just editing the summary I started, no passages are showing up... is my computer just crazy? because with the amount of difficulties I have with this program I'd believe that we have passages that just don't show on my end... or do we really still need the 1-3 passages? :)

Brian Croxall said

at 12:26 pm on Oct 30, 2009

Your summary for this day of notes provides a very good summary of the epic conventions that we identified within Paradise Lost. You get everything in that we talked about, and you also talk effectively about why God is not described in similes. What is missing, however, is any discussion of heroes within the text. This was the second main point of class. Your second passage does address this issue, but I would have expected to see it in both places.

I like the fact that you talk about the simile from Book 1, but I was surprised to see it appear again as a passage. You could have chosen a different moment to talk about (and therefore prepare for the exam). I think that more could have been said about the Satan and Sin vs. Zeus and Athena comparison. Finally, as far as the passages are concerned, please put poetry passages into lines, rather into long sentences. You want to be able to recognize them when you are taking an exam, and I won't write them this way.

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