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20100415-930 Lahiri (Group 4)

Page history last edited by Dawson Zimmerman 14 years ago

Summary

     We began class by discussing the differences in the poems of Sherman Alexie and Joy Harjo. We concluded that Joy Harjo had a more symbolic and poetic style that does not necessarily reveal that she was Native American. We also discussed  Alexie's "Because My Father Always Said He Was the Only Indian Who Saw Jimi Hendrix play 'The Star-Spangled Banner' at Woodstock" and the irony of the father liking the song (but Alexie points this irony back to us as to why the father should be stereotyped). Throughout the story, the father became more white, while the mother went back to her roots, dancing again and attending powwows.  

 

     We also discussed the short story "Sexy" by Lahiri.  In this story, young woman Miranda was sexually involved with married man named Dev.  The story depicted the process of this woman coming to an understanding of the way in which language can be interpreted in many different ways. We delved into the meaning of words as we saw Dev call Miranda "sexy." For Miranda, the word meant that Dev loved her. The discovery of the different interpretations of language came when a young boy also called Miranda "sexy." We further discussed the process Miranda took in stepping outside of her comfort zone. Dev takes Miranda to places surpassing her Boston home and helps Miranda expand her world rather than just sticking with the same places and staying in her apartment. Croxall showed us all the places that Miranda and Dev went via Google Earth, and she truly broadened herhorizens by several miles with help from Dev.

 

     The last discussion consisted of the parallelism between the Indians, specifically Bengali men, that are in the stories.  Dev and Laxmi's husband are parallels because they are both having affairs. Rohin, Laxmi's cousin's son, and Dev are both very interested in geography; they talk to Miranda about it, but she does not know anything about geography.

 

Word Count: 321

 

Passages

     "I was conceived during one of those drunken nights, half of me formed by my father's whiskey sperm, the other half formed by my mother's vodka egg. I was born a goofy reservation mixed drink, and my father needed me just as much as he needed every other kind of drink" (Alexie 27).

     This excerpt illustrates and symbolizes a mixture of cultures. The hippies want to be like the Indians in the way of living more of a natural lifestyle and reconnecting with the earth. As a result, it seems ironic that his dad would like The Star-Spangled Banner, as much as he does, because Americans were the ones who threw the Native Americans off their land.

 

     "She watched his lips forming the words; at the same time she heard them so clearly that she felt them under her skin, under her winter coat, so near and full of warmth that she felt herself go hot...'You're sexy,' he whispered back." (Lahiri 3254)

     This passage is important because it is the basis of the entire story. Dev calls Miranda sexy, and from this point on, Miranda believes Dev is in love with her until Rohin tells Miranda what the actual definition of sexy is. For Miranda, it means that Dev is in love with her, causing her to buy various sexy things; however, the definition of the word means nothing but sex to Dev.

 

     "This is the eternal football game, / Indians versus Indians." (Alexie 3240).

This excerpt identifies the struggles that face the Native Americans: they have turned on their own people.  They fight each other over power. 

 

 

Key Terms

     Sexy -- loving someone you don't know. 

     Postmodern Multiculturization -- expanding one's culture and experiences. Miranda doesn't know much geography (eg. She believed Bengali was a religion rather than the people of Bangladesh.) and barely knows her way around Boston. Yet, after meeting Dev, her world is expanded, and she begins venturing farther out of her normal, comfortable boundaries. 

     Salad Bowl -- Comparing America to a salad bowl, this means that each culture is independently represented but still come together as a whole. 

     Melting Pot -- theory that America is comprised of various cultures all blended together. 

 

 

 

 

Comments (10)

Katie Simmons said

at 5:11 pm on Apr 16, 2010

I added another quote. I think we should mention in the summary Miranda crying about the different definitions of sexy and her writing her name...showing that language is unstable. I haven't started the summary yet because I got to class late.

Hunter Stofan said

at 9:15 pm on Apr 17, 2010

I added some for the summary and I know it is probably well over 300 words but feel free to condense wherever necessary and also to continue with the second part of the summary of class... one thing that i dont have anything in my notes about but i know prof.Croxall mentioned it was post modern multicultrization so if someone wants to they can expand on that.

Caroline Smith said

at 10:41 pm on Apr 18, 2010

i added in some of the other things we talked about in class and another quote. we are thirteed words over though so i didnt know if yall saw something you might want to cut out! if not, i'll just snip something out tomorrow!

Caroline Smith said

at 10:43 pm on Apr 18, 2010

wait nevermind we're 63 words over haha oops

Dawson Zimmerman said

at 9:09 pm on Apr 19, 2010

I'm gonna try to cut down the word count tonight in approx 2 hours....but I think this is a pretty solid set of notes. well played everyone.

Dawson Zimmerman said

at 11:21 pm on Apr 19, 2010

Sorry Katie for stealing the lock back haha I was finishing some edits. It's all yours.

Katie Simmons said

at 11:25 pm on Apr 19, 2010

Haha it's alright. Sorry I stole it in the first place. I wonder how much Croxall will hold it against us for going over because Alexie's story has an incredibly long name...

Katie Simmons said

at 11:51 pm on Apr 19, 2010

Oh, and I added two more key terms. :)

Dawson Zimmerman said

at 4:17 pm on Apr 21, 2010

We are now under the 300 words if the title doesn't count. Just saying.

Brian Croxall said

at 11:15 am on Apr 23, 2010

It's a good thing I read your comments, as I think you provide a pretty convincing reason for why you needed more words for your summary than you are normally allowed. Well played, everyone.

You do a pretty good job of summarizing our discussion, as one looks at all three parts of your notes. I think it might have been useful to clearly state that the hippies only want to recognize one aspect of Native American history/experience rather than see them as real people. Alexie's work functions as postmodern multiculturalism insofar as he makes visible the tensions in being native.

For your discussion of "Sexy," it would have been nice to get a sentence from you mentioning how the story helps us see the instability of language and therefore challenges the metanarrative of language's stability. But apart from that clarity, you got the main points: the differences in what they mean by the word "sexy" and how she progressively becomes multiculturalized.

You chose three good passages, but I think Katie's idea of the passage with Miranda writing her name would have been useful as well.

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